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Where did they get the guns? Well, they got the Tec-9 from Manes, and they got the long guns at the Tanner gun show, according to the official version.

...maybe, ...or maybe not....


--Let's start with the Tec-9


BATF(8150)
According to Mark Manes, he purchased the Intratech-9, ser#D076305, at the Tanner gun show on 8-2-98. He had a credit card receipt for $491 from Eagle Enterprises for the Tec-9 purchase. Eagle Enterprises says absolutely not! Which raises the question of whether a false paper trail was laid down for this weapon. At any rate the purchase price seems high--the cop who inventoried the seized evidence only put the value of it at $100(see EP 3-42). But Manes was not charged with forgery, as far as I know.


Mark Manes(8237)
Admits buying Tech-9, ser#D076305, from unknown buyer at Tanner on 8-2-98. Says he handed it over to Klebold on 1-23-99.


Brian Distel(8182)
Witness to Manes-"Klebold" Tec-9 transaction. Said it happened around late February, 1999. Also witnessed Manes buy it at the Tanner gun show, in January of 1999.

Describes buyer of Tec-9 thusly:
w/m, 6'
long curly hair, shoulder length
wearing blackjack pizza shirt
acne on face
20 years old

Distel IDed this person out of a photo array. Tellingly, the IOs do not put a name to this ID.


Greg Macilliott(8185)
The second witness to this transaction. Says it happened sometime in March of '99.

Describes purchaser:
curly hair
big nose
wearing blackjack pizza shirt

Like Distel, he IDed this person out of a photo array; he remains unidentified.

Comment: The police failure to identify who the two witnesses saw is obviously good evidence it was not Klebold. When I read those admittedly sparse discriptions, I think of Perry.


--The Hi-Point

Mark Manes(8237)
He asked Harris about the Hi-Point at a target shooting session on 3-6-99. "Harris said he got it from his cousin."


Phil Duran(8235 and 8213)
Went to target practice with H&K, Manes, and Manes' girlfriend in mid-March, 1999. He was told the Hi-Point belonged to an uncle or cousin.


--Shotguns

Denver Rocky Mountain News, 12-12-99
"The two shotguns used did not have serial numbers because they were made before 1968."

Marcus Notte, FBI(8203)
Shotguns have serial numbers: Stevens double-barrel, ser#A077513 and Savage Springfield pump action, ser#A232432.(Is it possible that we are talking about 4 shotguns here--two with numbers and two without?)
Says $300 given to Duran for purchase of shotgun, not a Tec-9.


Pat McDuffy(10789)
Says Klebold bought a shotgun on his 18nth birthday, "either from a Walmart or a K-mart."


Jim Washington(8245) and Ron Hartman(8249)
The duo at the Tanner gun show who sold Robyn Anderson one of the long guns. Hartman, who did the actual transaction, says it was the Stevens double-barrel shotgun, ser#A077513, and the transaction took place on 11-22-98. He says he is 80% sure it was Dylan Klebold that was the "young man who accompanied her", though he describes him as being only 5'11". For what it's worth, both Washington and Hartman are long-time federal employees--Washington was a 'senior investigative and security specialist' with the 'Defense Security Service,' a federal agency that conducts criminal investigation for the U.S. Dept of Defense, and Hartman was a 20-year veteran of both the Navy and the Air Force.


Robyn Anderson(8216)
Says Klebold bought shotgun from one dealer and Harris bought the double-barrel shotgun from another dealer, when they all went to the Tanner gun show on 12-13-98.


(9959)
Robyn Anderson told Brittany Campbell she had bought guns.

Kellie Brown,TCMer(8211)
Robyn told her in the evening of 4-20 that H&K purchased two shotguns and a rifle at the Tanner gun show.


Nathan Dykeman(8198 and 10693))
Says Klebold told him he bought a pistol('uzi' type) and a shotgun from Phil Duran. (Officially, Duran was merely a go-between, collecting and delivering the second payment on the Tec-9 from Klebold.) The Tec-9 and double-barrel shotgun belonged to Klebold; the pump action belonged to Harris.


Chris Morris(9822)
Told FBI hostage negotiators at 2:50pm on 4-20 that 'the' shotgun belongs to Harris' or Klebold's parents.


(10841)
Says Klebold could have got shotguns from his father, "as he had a number of guns."


Wheeldon, Sheridan PD detective(10222)
The first police officer to enter the Harris house on 4-20(thanks, Jane). A shotgun and ammunition is found by him in Harris' bedroom. Not a sawed-off shotgun barrel, and not a BB-gun.

"An unknown guage shotgun with a sling was hanging in clear view on the side of a dresser table inside the bedroom."


--Was there a handgun?

USA Today Online, 4-28-99
"Investigators said a girlfriend of one of the gunmen bought a handgun and a rifle used in the crime-and then on Wedesday said she actually bought two shotguns and a rifle."


Zach Heckler, TCMer(10754)
He was told by Robyn on 4-21 that she purchased two shotguns and a semi-automatic handgun.


ACSO Nelson(8802)
Witnesses tell him one shooter is carrying a double-barrel shotgun, machine gun like a Tec-9 and either a .45 or 9mm handgun. Shooter #2 is carrying single-barrel shotgun and a Tec-9 type machine gun.


Chris Wisher, Washington Post, 4-21-99
"Chris Wisher, a sophomore, said the gunmen were armed with bombs, a shotgun, a hangun and a third weapon that he said was 'like an uzi'.


BATF(8135-8145)
For some reason, on these pages the 11k goes into a digression into discussion of another crime--a drive by on 4-18 not thought to be related to Columbine. Traces were initiated on two guns seized: an Intratec 9, ser#D052614, and a Glock Model 17 9mm, ser#BLM99505. Are the IOs trying to tell us something here? Why would they include all this information on a crime that was totally unrelated to the subject of the 11K? IF either of the two weapons were part of the attack on 4-20, then it raises the troubling thesis that weapons used in the killings came from a police evidence room. Remember that a few of the eyewitnesses initially thought that one of the suspects was a cop.


(9881)
At Leawood Park, reference to a Glock Model 21 revolver, handed amongst JeffCo sheriff's officers.

Nathan Dykeman(8198 )
"Dykeman never saw any Glock firearm or heard any talk of any Glock firearms."(Comment: why ask about a Glock in the firsst place?)

--Talk of an AK-47

Sean Graves(8759)
The shorter shooter was using an AK-47, army edition semi-automatic.

Brian Distel(8238 )
Went to a target shoot where an AK-47 was present.

Chris Morris(10037)
Says in past two weeks(of 4-20) Klebold or Harris bought an AK-47 off one of his other workers there.

--Possible other sources for the guns used in the attack

Bijan Monte(1016)
Said the Boles family(as in Tad Boles, TCMer) had a lot of guns. At the time of Boles' interview in May of '99, Boles' father was incarcerated on a weapons violation(10657).

Andrea Cook(5188 )
Says a (redacted-probably Perry) helped get the guns, and that he got them from several female students.

Dan Fleener, teacher(5558 )
Says TCMer David Caravan, boasted of having guns at home.

David Caravan, TCMer(6218 )
He told IOs that he had access to firearms at his residence.

Pat McDuffy(10786)
McDuffy says Joe Stair had many different types of guns, including shotguns. Also says TCMers Charles Phillips and John Beachum may have had weapons.

Jennifer Harmon(8834)
"She had heard that one of their dads owned a gun shop."


(10137)
Robert Perry's dad is a gun collector and "has an arsenal."

Eric Ault(10646)
Says that Harris told him he had access to his parent's guns.

Matt Houck(6633)
Says that Brooks Brown told him that Harris had recently ordered guns(he had just turned 1 and the three-week waiting period was up on 4-20.

Cecilia Grossman(7493)
A resident in the area, Brooks run up to her and ask if he could use the phone. According to her, Brooks told her: "Brown's ex-friend just turned 18 years old and Brown thought that he was getting a gun for his birthday."(Oddly enough, Brooks showed up four days later to 'confirm' that he was talking about Harris.(Taylor, 7687))

Daily News, Los Angeles, 4-25-99
"The investigators also said Thursday that they believed at least some of the weapons used in Tuesday's attack might have been stolen..."

John Veigel(7326)
Purchased Hi-Point rifle in Jan, '99

Benjamin Robert Stevens(8179)
Arrested with a Hi-Point rifle, ser#A54177, in his possession on 5-7-99. He claims he purchased the weapon from a store on 4-19-99, and that he was friends with Klebold and is "still tight with associates of Harris and Klebold."

FBI report, pg83
"...the weapons came from a local militia in the area,....The reason it happened on 4-20 is because they got all the guns and ammo and explosive compounds for free to do it on that date."(unknown source)

On 12-20-99 the BATF sent a letter to JeffCo that the computer search of records in the case is still ongoing(8258 ).(???)

Comment: The case of where H&K got their weaponry is not as clear cut as the police would have us believe. In the case of the Hi-Point and the pump action shotgun there is no apparent visible effort by the IOs to track down who sold them the weapons. In none of the four weapons sales was any receipt or bill of sale issued, as far as I can tell. The police are basically telling us that we have to accept the word of Mark Manes and Robin Anderson, both of whom, it should be noted, may have had motive to go along with the police version of events.

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