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evanlong	Sikh Temple Shooting in Wisconsin, 5 August 2012	Lead	[-]
Registered User Posts: 307 Aug 5 12 8:00 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Tags : shooting, domestic terrorism, sikh temple, wisconsin, milwaukee "A gunman opened fire Sunday morning at a Sikh temple outside of Milwaukee, killing six people and wounding at least three others, including a police officer, before being shot to death, authorities said. [...] Reports of multiple shooters “were likely reports of the same shooter from different perspectives,” Wentlandt said." http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/05/13130110-gunman-opens-fire-at-sikh-temple-in-wisconsin-7-dead?lite http://www.EvanLong.net/ http://www.EvanLong.tk/ http://www.TheColumbineCause.tk/
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Lord Carpainter		#1	[-]
Registered User Posts: 79 Aug 6 12 4:35 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ecdSKi9_fs&feature=player_embedded An eyewitness reports that the massacre was committed by four white males dressed in black clothing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYCurbSA ... r_embedded The son of the temple president states that he has gathered from his mother (who was an eyewitness) that the massacre was "well coordinated" and executed by "multiple gunmen". He mentions the "releasing of gas" at some point. http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_332426&feature=iv&src_vid=zYCurbSAsd4&v=1qSt6LoXQ6A The son of the temple president states that his father (who was shot in the temple) told him that there were "multiple shooters of caucasian descent." Notice that the newsmedia's headline indicates that there were three gunmen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIan9GvvSTo The sister-in-law of the temple president states that "some unidentified people" entered the temple and started shooting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation ... dLtTPZKNNU Another person who knew people in the temple states that he believes there were 'multiple shooters'. Other reports of additional gunmen: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57486965/shooting-at-sikh-temple-in-wis-at-least-7-dead/ Several eyewitnesses believe there was a second gunman. Hours after the massacre, police are searching for one. http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/reports-of-people-shot-at-sikh-temple-in-oak-creek-qc6cgc0-165059506.html Some witnesses say that there was a second shooter, though police report that there is no indication of that. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-milwaukee-mass-shooting-20120806,0,5445260.story People inside the temple were telling authorities (through text messages and hushed phone calls) that there were multiple gunmen. Since there are witnesses who saw more than one gunman at the same time, the argument that "different perspectives" confused eyewitnesses does not hold water. Further evidence against this argument is that there were conflicting reports about the clothing: http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/reports-of-people-shot-at-sikh-temple-in-oak-creek-qc6cgc0-165059506.html John Edwards, Chief of the Oak Creek Police Department, stated that they cannot state what the shooter was wearing because they have "multiple reports" of different things. A group of people seeing the same person from different perspectives will not come away with "multiple" contradictory descriptions. This argument surrounding perspectives is particularly weak. I wonder if the reason why both Chief Edwards and Chief Wentlandt chose to wear shades to their news conferences was to hide their nervous eyes. Wentlandt, by the way, began his career as a law enforcement specialist/explosive dog handler for the U.S. Air Force. The fix is in, and quite firmly: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57486965/shooting-at-sikh-temple-in-wis-at-least-7-dead/ Chief John Edwards is treating the event as a "domestic terror" attack and has, thus, handed the investigation over to the FBI. Local law enforcement will only provide 'assistance' from here on out, and they are being 'aided' by the ATF. The Milwaukee County Sheriff's Office is also involved in the investigation. The sheriff, David Clarke, who formerly headed the Milwaukee Police Department's intelligence division. This position brought him into close contact and collaboration with (among others) the Secret Service, the FBI, the ATF, the Customs Service, the INS, the State Department, and the U.S. Attorney. http://county.milwaukee.gov/MeettheSheriff9152.htm Now would be a good time to mention that the president of the Sikh temple in Oak Creek just happened to be the father of a former MPD officer. http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/reports-of-people-shot-at-sikh-temple-in-oak-creek-qc6cgc0-165059506.html The White House is keeping a close eye on the massacre, with Barack Obama being updated by his homeland security adviser. http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/reports-of-people-shot-at-sikh-temple-in-oak-creek-qc6cgc0-165059506.html Tommy Thompson, who is running for Senate, happened to be speaking at a nearby Sikh temple in Brookfield. This temple was evacuated as a precaution in the wake of the Oak Creek massacre. You'll recall that Thompson was, from 1987 to 2001, the Governor of Wisconsin. From 2001 to 2005, he was the Secretary of Health & Human Services under President George W. Bush. For two years, Thompson sat on the board of Applied Digital Solutions, which developed the notorious VeriChip. During the 2008 election, Thompson was an outspoken supporter of Rudy Giuliani. By the way, the Governor of Wisconsin happens to (still) be the notoriously fascist and corrupt Scott Walker.
Lord Carpainter		#2	[-]
Registered User Posts: 79 Aug 6 12 4:53 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57486965/shooting-at-sikh-temple-in-wis-at-least-7-dead/ In conjunction with the many reports of a more than one shooter, there were also reports of a second gun found at the scene. It was later explained that this gun belonged to a police officer. Of course, the officer remains unidentified, making this story completely unverifiable. Considering that the story requires a trained law enforcement officer to simply 'drop' their weapon and leave it on the ground in a situation where they could potentially need it most, it is also entirely unlikely. Seems pretty obvious to me that they're simply attempting to explain away the fact that a weapon with no connection to the suspect was lying around. http://www.karnnewsradio.com/rssItem.asp?feedid=118&itemid=29888015 This report states that the gunman was last seen with two handguns. But, wait, I thought the other one belonged to a police officer? Well, contradictions are necessary when the story just doesn't add up. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/05/13130110-gunman-opens-fire-at-sikh-temple-in-wisconsin-7-dead?lite The suspect was a 'former' member of the U.S. Army. He had a "9/11" tattoo (as well as many others). I've read that tattoos/cutting can be connected to mind control. It's funny how this event (with a clear 9/11 tie-in) occurs a month before the eleventh anniversary. http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/06/us/wisconsin-temple-shooting/ A spokesman for the ATF would only confirm that the suspect had a military background, but would not elaborate. http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/06/us/wisconsin-temple-shooting/ April Reyna lived around the corner from the suspect. She said that she had occasionally greeted him, and that he seemed like a quiet, pleasant person. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57487094/sikh-temple-shooting-suspect-remains-a-mystery-wisconsin-home-searched-for-clues/ The suspect "may have used an alias at some point." Common for people involved in covert activity. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57487094/sikh-temple-shooting-suspect-remains-a-mystery-wisconsin-home-searched-for-clues/ Neighbors reported a "screaming match" coming from the suspect's apartment recently. A screaming match involves at least two people. Who was screaming at who, and why? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUtIsysE2h8 The suspect possibly lived on E. Holmes Avenue. Give me a break. Last Edited By: Lord Carpainter Aug 6 12 7:23 AM. Edited 1 times.
Lord Carpainter		#3	[-]
Registered User Posts: 79 Aug 6 12 4:56 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I wonder if the shooting death of the suspect was as justified as it sounds. People telling true stories don't need to change them: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57487094/sikh-temple-shooting-suspect-remains-a-mystery-wisconsin-home-searched-for-clues/ Edwards said the gunman "ambushed" one of the first officers to arrive at the temple as the officer, a 20-year veteran with tactical experience, tended to a victim outside. A second officer then exchanged gunfire with the suspect, who was fatally shot. Police had earlier said the officer who was shot killed the suspected shooter.
Lord Carpainter		#4	[-]
Registered User Posts: 79 Aug 6 12 6:33 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The NASA landing came right on time. Brace yourselves and prepare for mega-weirdness. The temple president's son, Amardeep Kaleka, is co-director (with Dr. Steven Greer) of the new Disclosure documentary Sirius: https://twitter.com/DrStevenGreer/status/232379797232300032 Amardeep Kaleka was all over the news after the attack, reporting (based on information from his parents) a well-coordinated attack by multiple shooters that involved, at some point, the 'releasing of gas': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYCurbSAsd4&feature=player_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_332426&feature=iv&src_vid=zYCurbSAsd4&v=1qSt6LoXQ6A Now, hear him with Dr. Greer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4umeIVcVHE I'm sure everyone is aware that Dr. Steven Greer, the leading light of the Disclosure Project, has close ties to the military-intelligence complex and Laurence Rockefeller, whose ranch he has been to. It was at this ranch that he became associated with the Clintons. Among the many officials he's 'briefed' was Clinton's CIA director, James Woolsey, who appears to have played a major part in the WTC93 and 9/11 operations. Dr. Greer has previously claimed connections with Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, Peter G. Peterson, Maxwell Rabb, and Prince Philip, among others. Of course, none of that has made it into the official narrative. We've heard about three of the temple president's sons: (1) A ten-year-old, who just so happened to be the first to see the gunman. (2) A former police officer with the Milwaukee Police Department (MPD). (3) A movie director who is helping to create the new Disclosure film with Dr. Steven Greer, called Sirius (a star/symbol sacred to the occult) His Twitter account: https://twitter.com/armkaleka His IMDB profile: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2394430/ His "independent motion picture company": http://www.neverendinglight.com/index.php/about-us
Lord Carpainter		#5	[-]
Registered User Posts: 79 Aug 6 12 7:02 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	http://www.cbsnews.com/83...-plan-from-obama-romney/ "Coincidentally, on the same day that seven people were killed at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, a coalition of mayors released a new ad - before the shooting - calling for the presidential candidates to present a plan addressing gun violence." How timely. And the Brady campaign is, of course, all over this: http://www.bradycampaign.org/media/press/view/1519/
Lord Carpainter		#6	[-]
Registered User Posts: 79 Aug 6 12 7:56 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57487094/sikh-temple-shooting-suspect-identified-as-wade-michael-page-motivation-unclear/ According to sources in the U.S. Army, Page enlisted in April 1992 and given a less-than-honorable discharge in October 1998. He served at Fort Bliss, Texas, in the psychological operations unit in 1994, and was last stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, attached to the psychological operations unit. The details of his discharge were not immediately clear. They're explaining the screaming in his apartment as being a part of the break-up between him and his girlfriend, which they might be preparing to use as the motive. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9454685/Sikh-temple-massacre-gunman-named-as-Wade-Michael-Page.html Kurt Weins, the suspected gunman’s landlord, said the flat, an upper story duplex, was rented by the single man in his 40s last month. He is believed to have moving there are breaking up with his girlfriend. “I had him checked out and he definitely checked out,” he told the Wisconsin Sentinel newspaper. Mr Weins said the FBI had asked him not to name the man. “The cops told me they don't want me to say nothing right now.” If there's no conspiracy and it's all about Wade Michael Page, the lone gunman, then why is law enforcement telling witnesses to keep quiet? I can only imagine what they're saying to the people who saw what happened in the temple.
Lord Carpainter		#7	[-]
Registered User Posts: 79 Aug 6 12 9:10 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2012/08/06/official_identifies_man_suspected_in_sikh_shooting/ Page joined the military in Milwaukee and was a repairman for the Hawk missile system. He later switched jobs to become one of the Army's psychological operations specialists. All of this is being 'leaked' by anonymous officials. The state doesn't want anyone releasing information about Wade Michael Page. I wonder why.
thecure		#8	[-]
Registered User Posts: 36 Aug 6 12 6:23 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I dont know how most of you feel about Ley Lines but you got to admit this is interesting. Right in the middle.
starviego		#9	[-]
Registered User Posts: 1224 Aug 6 12 9:22 PM Admin Staff Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	The deceased victims: Sita Singh, 41 Ranjit Singh, 49 Prakash Singh, 39 Paramjit Kaur, 41 Suveg Singh, 84 Satwant Singh Kaleka, 65 ---------------- Hear is the other evidence of multiple shooters not previously mentioned: http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/165061026.html One witness told Newsradio 620 WTMJ's Dan O'Donnell that at least one, possibly four gunmen were hiding inside the temple after they started shooting. --As of 12:10 p.m., JSOnline reported at least 20 people who were shot inside the temple, the head priest locked inside a small room with a cell phone, and shooters possibly inside holding children as hostages. http://www.freerepublic.c...14900/posts?q=1&;page=51 comment 55: --Local Fox affiliate reporting SWAT entered and took down 3 shooters. comment 83 --from Greenfield police chief: first 911 call came at 10:25am --officer who shot first shooter was shot in return multiple times! still a hostage situation... comment 117 --cnn report - interview with temple spokesman.... 1 shooter dead; 2 remain inside with hostages... http://www.cnn.com/2012/0...ing/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Gurcharan Grewal, president of the Sikh Religious Society of Wisconsin, told CNN that he has heard from multiple people that there were wounded victims still inside the temple and that there may have been multiple perpetrators. http://www.jsonline.com/n...k-qc6cgc0-165059506.html Someone who sent a text message to a Journal Sentinel reporter shortly before noon said that there were two shooters with children possibly as hostages. http://www.jsonline.com/n...k-qc6cgc0-165059506.html SWAT team members were still sweeping the building about 1 p.m. and an explosion was heard from the building at that time... http://www.abovetopsecret.../forum/thread868372/pg14 Breaking Report CNN live coverage. Ted Rollins sp? reporting huge group of officers converging on a wooded area about a mile from Temple, guns drawn...he doesn't know why they are all heading there. He said he heard they are doing a sweep of the wooded area. [Sounds like the were told that shooters were seen running in that direction, or that someone spotted a gunman in this area.] http://www.southbendtribu...20120805,0,5535830.story Smiran Kaleka, the niece of one of the wounded men, said an unknown number of gunmen walked into the kitchen of the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in Oak Creek about 10:30 a.m. CDT (11.30 a.m. EDT) and started shooting. She said her mother had told her the shooters were white men. http://www.altnews.info/1...well-coordinated-attack/ Update: 12:23 pst: A witness from inside reported the shooters were ‘dropped off’ by a car, which sped away from the scene. http://www.abovetopsecret...&on=14703498#pid14703498 WISN was just now reiterating that family members of those involved and other witnesses did report seeing that they saw multiple people being dropped off at the Temple, not just one gunman, even though law enforcement says otherwise for now. / Last Edited By: starviego Aug 6 12 10:16 PM. Edited 1 times.
starviego		#10	[-]
Registered User Posts: 1224 Aug 6 12 9:35 PM Admin Staff Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	A poster on another forum had some inside info: http://www.infowars.com/e...nd-sikh-temple-shooting/ poster SeisnerS --I live here.... A member of the temple council told local news that over the weekend a few men were walking around outside the temple “casing” it. He said those same men were back early this morning walking around, then a few hours later the shooting happened. Yesterday, the other Sikh temple in the Milwaukee area received a phone call from someone asking when the busiest time for the temple was. That definitely sounds like more than one person to many people in Milwaukee. --------------- http://www.jsonline.com/n...k-qc6cgc0-165059506.html --Though the gunman was killed outside the temple not long after the shooting spree began(at about 10:30am), it wasn't until shortly before noon that a police SWAT team entered the building and brought uninjured people out. In other words, they didn't enter the building for an hour and a half after they got there. Haven't the cops been crowing since Columbine about how they now train to go after the active shooter right away instead of waiting for SWAT to show up? Maybe they really did have a hostage situation, like early reports said.
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starviego		#11	[-]
Registered User Posts: 1224 Aug 6 12 11:52 PM Admin Staff Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	For what it's worth, the suspect seems to have been in the Denver area around the time of Columbine, when he was 27. http://www.abovetopsecret.../forum/thread868372/pg37 DOB 11/11/1971 2558 Sherrod Rd, Nashville, NC 27856 (these are "last seen" dates for address) 03/2011 4751 Doc Bennett Rd, Fayetteville, NC 28306 10/2009 5529 S Windermere St Apt 23, Littleton, CO 80120 06/2000 5025 E Missouri Ave, Denver, CO 80246 11/1990 2975 S Hudson St, Denver, CO 80222 Po Box 9th, Fort Bragg, NC 28307 5352 S Huron St, Littleton, CO 80120 406 S Glassell St, Orange, CA 92866 103 W Powers Cir Apt 307, Littleton, CO 80120 2590 E Nichols Cir, Centennial, CO 80122 http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/165205486.html 0n April 27, 1999, Page was arrested on allegations of driving under the influence in Denver and later pleaded guilty, according to Colorado court records. Maybe he was stressed out about something. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/hammerskin ...Page was a member of the Hammerskins, ... and identified himself as a Northern Hammerskin, part of the group’s upper Midwest branch. The white-power music scene is one of the main things that the Hammerskins do in the United States and is a “fairly important part of the white supremacist subculture" in the country, said Pitcavage. Because of Page's role in that music scene, he had already become linked with the Hammerskins through his involvement in bands tied to the group and his performances at their events. Page became a “fully patched” member of the Hammerskins by late 2011 after going through an apprenticeship period. He had one of their tattoos on his right arm -- a sort of cogwheel with the numbers 838 inside it (838 is an alpha-numeric code that means “hail crossed hammers,” a reference to their logo of two-crossed hammers .... Remember there were a few hints back in '99 that the TCM had links to far right supremacist groups, which included the Denver Hammerskins, according to one source. / Last Edited By: starviego Aug 7 12 12:31 AM. Edited 4 times.
starviego		#12	[-]
Registered User Posts: 1224 Aug 7 12 1:43 AM Admin Staff Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	This is getting better: http://www.9news.com/news...-had-Colorado-connection Sources have told 9NEWS he used to live in Littleton from 2000 to 2007. 9NEWS found Wade's name listed in a Littleton High School yearbook for 1987 and twice in Arapahoe High School's yearbooks for 1989 and 1990. His last name was different at the time. He went by the name "Wade Vanbuskirk." (also spelled Van Buskirk) http://www.denverpost.com...-shootings-colorado-ties In 1999, Page pleaded guilty to driving while ability impaired in Denver. He served 60 days in jail, according to Denver court records. The Denver Sheriff's Office refused to release its mug shot of him, citing a request from law officers in Wisconsin. Now why would they care what he looked like 13 years ago? ------------- Here's a good video with many of the witnesses contradicting the official account: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7psHOKbNKf4&t=0m43s foreknowledge? http://deadlinelive.info/...mass-shooting-weeks-ago/ “Just three weeks ago, one of the first officers on the scene talked to the the mayor about preparing and being ready for a mass tragedy just like this one” / Last Edited By: starviego Aug 7 12 2:48 PM. Edited 3 times.
Lord Carpainter		#13	[-]
Registered User Posts: 79 Aug 7 12 5:09 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	starviego wrote: http://www.denverpost.com...-shootings-colorado-ties In 1999, Page pleaded guilty to driving while ability impaired in Denver. He served 60 days in jail, according to Denver court records. The Denver Sheriff's Office refused to release its mug shot of him, citing a request from law officers in Wisconsin. Now why would they care what he looked like 13 years ago? This is very weird - especially considering his connection to the Hammerskins and their connection to the TCM. He was almost thirty at the time. Wild speculation, but: What if? Last Edited By: Lord Carpainter Aug 7 12 5:14 PM. Edited 1 times.
evanlong	Reaching Out to Those Connected	#14	[-]
Registered User Posts: 307 Aug 7 12 6:21 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	I think we should attempt some kind of outreach messaging to those close to the situation, who are obviously aware that there is a cover-up underway. In a situation like this, when the head of the temple says something, the community listens, no matter what the police say. Also, I'm not sure that Page fits the CFS description; he looks pudgy in all of the pictures I've seen. Then again, maybe he had a lean spell in 1999. http://www.EvanLong.net/ http://www.EvanLong.tk/ http://www.TheColumbineCause.tk/
evanlong		#15	[-]
Registered User Posts: 307 Aug 7 12 6:23 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	Also, I want to recommend that if you see a good video on YT with witnesses, save a copy of it ASAP. You can use keepvid.com for this. http://www.EvanLong.net/ http://www.EvanLong.tk/ http://www.TheColumbineCause.tk/
starviego		#16	[-]
Registered User Posts: 1224 Aug 8 12 12:34 AM Admin Staff Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	http://www.latimes.com/ne...-20120807,0,542686.story (Police Chief John)Edwards said some people have reported that Page had a 9/11 tattoo that was a clue to his motivation.... There is one problem with that theory, the chief said: "He did not have a 9/11 tattoo anywhere on his body." In that case, the chief has a problem with his theory, because the witnesses to the suspect's 911 tattoo aren't just those at the shooting site: http://disc.yourwebapps.c...id=149495;article=141854 Peter Hoyt, who lives about a block from Page's last apartment, said he spoke with Page about a dozen times. Hoyt remembered Page having a "9/11" tattoo on his arm but could not describe it. http://www.newyorker.com/...with-the-911-tattoo.html Many in the temple had mentioned a 9/11 tattoo, and a neighbor that the Journal-Sentinel spoke to, a fourteen-year-old named Amber Young, confirmed that: “He was walking his dog and it was right there,” she said pointing to her own upper right arm. Wade Page had tattoos up and down both arms, according to his videos. None of the witnesses mentioned all the other tattoos. All they saw was one. There was, however, one person on scene who very definitely had a single 911 tattoo: http://www.newyorker.com/...with-the-911-tattoo.html --the authorities in Oak Creek, despite the assurances that Page was the only shooter, are looking for a second man, a “person of interest” who was in the crowd around the temple. He seemed to be filming people; he also had a 9/11 tattoo. (Hours later, police claim they interviewed and cleared him of involvement.) It's the "Second 0swald" all over again! 0ne tattoo, two suspects, and three aliases(Vanbuskirk, Pierce, and Page). Last Edited By: starviego Aug 8 12 1:08 AM. Edited 1 times.
Lord Carpainter		#17	[-]
Registered User Posts: 79 Aug 8 12 2:46 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	evanlong wrote: I think we should attempt some kind of outreach messaging to those close to the situation, who are obviously aware that there is a cover-up underway. In a situation like this, when the head of the temple says something, the community listens, no matter what the police say. Also, I'm not sure that Page fits the CFS description; he looks pudgy in all of the pictures I've seen. Then again, maybe he had a lean spell in 1999. He certainly doesn't fit the CFS description now, but what if that's exactly why they aren't releasing his mug shot? Perhaps we'd see a thinner man with blond, spiky, not-yet-shaved hair. I'm going solely by the circumstantial, though. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57487094/sikh-temple-shooting-suspect-remains-a-mystery-wisconsin-home-searched-for-clues/ It is now being reported that Officer Sam Lenda, a 32-year veteran of the force, shot and killed Page. However, early reports stated that the wounded officer, who has now been identified as Lt. Brian Murphy, the head of the Oak Creek Police Department's tactical division and a 20-year veteran of the force, was the man who killed him. No explanation has been offered as to how this massive 'mistake' was made. Murphy is a former U.S. Marine: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/07/wisconsin-shooting-heroic-cop_n_1752006.html?utm_hp_ref=impact "The Oak Creek officer and former Marine is one of two victims that are still in critical condition after the Army veteran and reported member of the neo-Nazi band “End Empathy” opened fire at the Wisconsin Sikh Temple." Makes you start wondering how a man shot nine times (once in the throat) could possibly survive, especially when he told the others not to tend to his wounds. Well, it's also worth wondering how he was able to even issue such an order immediately afterward. You also start wondering how Page was able to put nine shots into Lt. Murphy with a semi-automatic before Lenda or any of the other trained officers (who knew they were moving in to engage an active shooter) returned fire. Then you start wondering why Page would have focused on shooting Murphy as many times as possible while completely ignoring the other officers, who he knew would, realistically speaking, return fire as soon as possible. The story we're being fed about Page's shooting death is absolute bullshit.
Lord Carpainter	"He was very quiet. You'd say hi and he'd kind of 'uh.' It was like he didn't care if you were talking or not."	#18	[-]
Registered User Posts: 79 Aug 8 12 3:02 AM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	"He was very quiet. You'd say hi and he'd kind of 'uh.' It was like he didn't care if you were talking or not." "On a scale of 1 to 10 [Friendliness], bout a 1.5." These are the statements of David Brown, allegedly a neighbor of Page (or his 'double') and now one of the star witnesses against him in the media. You'll notice that, in television interviews, Brown wears a Navy hat. This is because he is a "former navy officer who is retired from working in aviation electronics." http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/shooter-wade-page-was-army-vet-white-supremacist-856cn28-165123946.html This article also provides another key character witness in the form of Fred Allen Lucas, who says that Page hated all non-whites, calling them "dirt people". Lucas' credibility is diminished by the fact that he "served with Page at Fort Bragg, N.C., in a psychological operations battalion." In other words, he's someone whose job is to disseminate the establishment's disinformation. The other character witness provided by the article is Jennifer Dunn, who just so happens to be a psychiatric nurse. I'm getting tired of this.
starviego		#19	[-]
Registered User Posts: 1224 Aug 8 12 10:47 AM Admin Staff Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	http://news.blogs.cnn.com...-page-2/#comment-1327895 Version #3: Wade Michael Page... died that day from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head after he was shot in the stomach by a responding officer.... -------------- Notice how the only photos we have seen of Page are those from his white-power scene, and one or two from his early childhood? But none from his days in the army(soldiers love to photograph themselves and their buddies), not his high school yearbook photos, and not his arrest mugshot. They are keeping his bio carefully hidden. / Last Edited By: starviego Aug 8 12 4:13 PM. Edited 1 times.
Lord Carpainter		#20	[-]
Registered User Posts: 79 Aug 8 12 1:27 PM Reply Quote More My Recent Posts	starviego wrote: http://news.blogs.cnn.com...-page-2/#comment-1327895 Version #3: Wade Michael Page... died that day from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head after he was shot in the stomach by a responding officer, Teresa Carlson.... Are you freaking serious? When I first read your post, I was figuring it was an early news report that he killed himself. They're now completely contradicting the two earlier stories? I don't know whether to laugh or to cry. That the public buys shit like this is extremely frustrating. Gee, I wonder why Sam Lenda or any of the other officers never stepped in to correct what the stories were saying. Instead, he made a remark about how he was "just doing his job". Great new story, guys. Really patched up the holes on that one - so now, the guy was able to shoot himself in the head in front of a team of armed police officers after being shot in the stomach. Okay. It should be noted that a shot to the head and a shot to the torso is standard operating procedure for professional assassinations. A coincidence, I'm positively sure. Last Edited By: Lord Carpainter Aug 8 12 1:34 PM. Edited 2 times.
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Sikh Temple Shooting in Wisconsin, 5 August 2012

Sikh Temple Shooting in Wisconsin, 5 August 2012